IHD wifi module


Had my smart meters fitted yesterday and received the Geo Trio II IHD. One thing I noticed when poking through the settings is that it doesn't have the WiFi module to allow it to be monitored remotely (I'm a bit of a gadget freak :rolleyes:). Couldn't find where to buy the module online so pinged Geo who told me that my energy supplier should be able to provide me with one.

Anyone know how to get hold of one? Doesn't appear to be covered in the FAQ.

​Thanks, Chris

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Hi ScoobyChris,
Welcome to the community.

The subject of the WiFi module has been mentioned a few times, with someone asking if PP could supply the module. The reply was that PP want to sort the basics of smart meter installations first. But never say never., I'm sure it will come up again as there are a few members that are interested.
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Hi ScoobyChris,
Welcome to the community.

The subject of the WiFi module has been mentioned a few times, with someone asking if PP could supply the module. The reply was that PP want to sort the basics of smart meter installations first. But never say never., I'm sure it will come up again as there are a few members that are interested.


Yep I was one of them! :)

It does seem that Geotogether do have a REST API for their products. See - https://www.geotogether.com/products-services/tempo-smarter-energy/ so all we need is the module.
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one can but ask....
jelockwood;32637:
Yep I was one of them! :)

It does seem that Geotogether do have a REST API for their products. See - https://www.geotogether.com/products-services/tempo-smarter-energy/ so all we need is the module.
jelockwood;32637:
Yep I was one of them! :)

It does seem that Geotogether do have a REST API for their products. See - https://www.geotogether.com/products-services/tempo-smarter-energy/ so all we need is the module.


Yep exactly. Was expecting to find the modules on somewhere like eBay but seems their distribution is closely guarded! I’ve asked customer services and will see what they say.

Chris
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PP seem to have plans (IIRC) that they'll show usage data in the App (which makes sense) - but that cam come from Smart Meter->PP->your account

That seems better than dealing with wifi installation per customer. And will still allow PP to show usage data to those who ditch the IHD (which I will do as soon as the app/account has the details)
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PP seem to have plans (IIRC) that they'll show usage data in the App (which makes sense) - but that cam come from Smart Meter->PP->your account

That seems better than dealing with wifi installation per customer. And will still allow PP to show usage data to those who ditch the IHD (which I will do as soon as the app/account has the details)


The approach you detail above is -

1. Unlikely to provide as frequent an update of data
2. Not be able to be integrated to other smart home systems.

In theory if you were monitoring locally with a smart home system you could have an automation rule that either sent an alert on spotting an increase in energy usage or could automatically turn smart power sockets off. Other possibilities I am sure would also be 'invented'.
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Agreed. But it does make it a lot easier for PP to manage for ALL customers.

Perhaps a wireless module could become an option extra. Maybe they'll even include it (or activate it) in future. And if so, can we have IFTTT support please 🙂
Got my meters installed a few minutes ago. When PP said that they could install them, I asked if they could supply the WIFI module and they said they could. Just be fore the engineer left, I checked and it wasn't install. I asked him and he said he had some funny black things that he didn't know what they were. He got one and, sure enough, it was a WIFI module. So I am now networked in. However, I don't know if PP are supplying access to a cloud account or not. Still at least I'm networked!

Seem that you need the "Geo Tempo" app on Android and you can create a free account agd start seeing data. Can't say if this works for Apple devices.

Now to look at the restful API!

Documentation here...

https://tempo-io.github.io/tempo-api-docs/?__hstc=107193373.8463fdbd5e38bd69631e1e70f38fa859.1584547674649.1584547674649.1584550205921.2&__hssc=107193373.1.1584550205921&__hsfp=4108662348&hsutk=8463fdbd5e38bd69631e1e70f38fa859&contentType=standard-page

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See you in a couple of weeks:)
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Bernie;50306:
Got my meters installed a few minutes ago. When PP said that they could install them, I asked if they could supply the WIFI module and they said they could. Just be fore the engineer left, I checked and it wasn't install. I asked him and he said he had some funny black things that he didn't know what they were. He got one and, sure enough, it was a WIFI module. So I am now networked in. However, I don't know if PP are supplying access to a cloud account or not. Still at least I'm networked!


​​​​​​​That's interesting, there are many members, myself included that would be interested in getting one of these modules. @Marc, is PP now in a position to offer these to interested members?
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​​​​​​​That's interesting, there are many members, myself included that would be interested in getting one of these modules. @Marc, is PP now in a position to offer these to interested members?


Interesting @Duppy @Bernie
I'm checking it out 👍
Bear with me!
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Thanks Bernie
​​​​​​​This is the most exciting post about smart meters yet!
I'm almost tempted...(but only almost)
Marc;50311:
Interesting @Duppy @Bernie
I'm checking it out 👍
Bear with me!

@Marc
​​​​​​​I would most interested in receiving one of these IHD WiFi modules too, hopefully this will allow integration with Samsung Smartthings.
Hi @Bernie
So I've checked all this out with our smart meters team.
What you've described is a consumer access device. We don't currently support these, so the Magnum engineer shouldn't have given this to you.
That said, we're not demanding you give it back or anything. But I'm not sure you'll get much out of it.
The reason we don't offer these CADs is because there's an extra layer of cost to do that, in terms of support we'd need to offer Members. We're still focused on making sure that the IHD data is correct. Better to get that right first.
Also in the future we'll be looking at presenting extra info in the PP app.
Owww, connect your LAN (and hence WAN) to the smart meter infrastructure. What could go wrong? #pessimism
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Thanks Bernie
​​​​​​​This is the most exciting post about smart meters yet!
I'm almost tempted...(but only almost)
Marc,

Thanks for the update. I think some in-house education may be required. Your helpdesk checked when I asked about it and clearly said that the WiFi module was available and would be supplied. I assume you record phone calls, so you can check out what was discussed.

Anyhow, the module is useful as it does give me visibility of usage on my mobile device. However, this is only of limited value (not least because the app is a bit pants), as what is really required is a REST API facility to query the data on a continuous basis so we can analyse usage fully.

Geotogether, who provide the IHD and the GEO tempo app, do have a REST API, but they say it isn't available to consumers. They say that the energy supplier should provide this for consumers.

Not sure where we go from here, but other suppliers do provide this facility.

Thanks for your assistance.

Regards,

​​​​​​​Bernie.
I'd be really interested in getting access to my energy monitor data too. Would love to add the data to my Home Assistant dashboards.

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