Winter fuel bills ๐Ÿงค๐Ÿงฃ๐Ÿ”ฅโ„๏ธ๐ŸŒก๐Ÿ’ท๐Ÿ•ฏ

  • 16 September 2018
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With dark colder nights drawing in, and winter fast approaching, just interested to know how you deal with / embrace it:

Dealing with the Tundra temperatures!


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Great poll @Bev
For me it depends if I'm feeling tight or generous ;)
I know some people won't touch the heating until December the earliest!
I'm into the big jumpers but I'll have the heating at about 17 degrees too
Mankini? Shudder....... (I was tempted to find a GIF to post here)
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So sadly no gas supply so sadly central heating not an option, otherwise I sooooo know Iโ€™d bump it up and stay cosy.

But with leccy only, Iโ€™m like you Marc in the jumper respect, solely because the leccy heat options are a bit ๐Ÿ’ฉ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ˜. I use them, but far from ideal and mega mega mega costly, so plenty of ๐Ÿงฆ๐Ÿงฆ๐Ÿงฆ๐Ÿงฆ๐Ÿงฆ, loads of hot ๐Ÿšฟ๐Ÿšฟ๐Ÿšฟ๐Ÿšฟ๐Ÿšฟand sometimes two duvets ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚but my reasons are purely due to the lack of gas supply here ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž.

hey thanks for liking the polly ๐Ÿ‘
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Hey bev.
Another poll. I am very lucky that i dont actually pay the bill but im still a tight arse and it wont be going on till the girls in the office start moaning they are freezing.
You can get electric central heating. We have it in one part of the building, an amptec flow boiler is what you need.there tiny and take up no space what so ever, no servicing or vents so can go anywhere.
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Thanks Jon! ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ, had no absolute idea! ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ
I'm lucky I live in a sheltered housing flat, ch is paid in Service charge, the elderly folks here get so cold, so our gas ch is controlled by a computer at HW n wot temp is outside. Its so hot in these flats in Summer, I had my ceiling fan on day n night, but wen its freezing cold out in Nov its nice t turn up ch, after being outside. I am knitting lots of hats, cowls, gloves, mitts n loadsa colourful socks for my Etsy shop. The sox get snapped up so fast I can't knit em fast enuf.

I bought a lovely, 'soft as a kitten' ๐Ÿˆ jumpurr today, I thought it must be wool n cashmere with silk but no it is poly/acrylic. It has embroideted flowers over left side, I don't usually like acrylic yarn, but these days its so soft. Can't beat wool socks n a nice cuddly FI or Aran wool ๐Ÿ‘ jumper.

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Never heard of an amptec flow boiler. Is this some new heating imvention?
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oops, missed this one but unable to vote as my vote will be cancelled by the rest of the occupants (I'll leave you to guess why, suffice to say they don't pay the bills!)
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I used to be really tight with putting the heating on but I've decided that if needs must.
Also, getting hive installed has been a revelation and I'm sure will save me some cash as it is a lot more schedulable (is that a word?!) and I can switch it off with the touch of a button rather than having to be in the house and think about it a bit more.

My house has fairly big rooms and takes forever to heat up just 1 degree so I was toying with between option 2 on the poll and option 3. The only reason I didn't go for option 3 is that my OH usually puts the heating AND gas fire on in the lounge, I come home and switch it off 😃
@Bev, central heating is always an option even without gas. Air/Ground source heat pumps, BIOMASS, Electric Water heating combined with Solar lots of different options. Some of them are expensive but the governments renewable heat incentive (RHI) can help with the costs and if your current heating is electric only then it can save a lot of money in the long run. RHI is geared to try and give you a 7 year return on the investment. Modern Storage/Fan heaters coupled with Central control can also make heating from electric less inconvenient.
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Thank you uncle Scooby ๐Ÿ‘
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Sadly it's one of the laws of physics that those who aren't responsible for the bills get colder than those who are.
I have graphs and research to prove it.
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I used to be really tight with putting the heating on but I've decided that if needs must.
Also, getting hive installed has been a revelation and I'm sure will save me some cash as it is a lot more schedulable (is that a word?!) and I can switch it off with the touch of a button rather than having to be in the house and think about it a bit more.

My house has fairly big rooms and takes forever to heat up just 1 degree so I was toying with between option 2 on the poll and option 3. The only reason I didn't go for option 3 is that my OH usually puts the heating AND gas fire on in the lounge, I come home and switch it off :D
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.....as the office proves, Woz! Bleeding sauna ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜“๐Ÿ˜“! Bet their homes are the bloomin Tundra ๐Ÿคญโ„๏ธโ„๏ธโ„๏ธโ„๏ธ
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Need more "bad boys" :D

Interesting how most people voted for the watching bills option :checkmark:
Sadly coming from a โ€˜mixed raceโ€™ family (Dad was Scottish and Mother born in Yorkshire - apparently that is the tightest combination you can find !) i am very cost conscious and constantly follow the kids and wife around the house turning things off. Even though everything we have is LED or low energy based I just cant help it....maybe Iโ€™m a hidden โ€˜Greenieโ€™at heart....

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Need more "bad boys" :D

Interesting how most people voted for the watching bills option :checkmark:
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Interestingly, my son used to have his room quite warm, and used to leave TV, computers etc left on. Looking into his room, all you could see were standby lights and glows from various devices.
He moved into his own home this weekend and he goes round switching everything off at the wall socket, he also hasn't had the heating on yet. When I asking about it he showed me his smart meter and says have you seen how much it costs. Funny it never bothered him when I was paying.
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@Duppy, your post made me smile, I can still associate with that one 🙂. All part of growing up I guess, just need my wife now to have the same "switch it off" stance LOL.
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Very good post, Duppy. I larfed too Gil ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜‚
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@Bev larf!!!!???? if that like a baff 🆒
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Hee hee hee hee, love using that spelling ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
We've reduced our bills by using as much gas ch than electric heaters. Also don't use the electric kettle or toaster, instead we use the an old fashion kettle on the stove and the grill to make toasts.
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We have renovated an old Georgian house, built around 1810. We did all the calculations, got recommendations from suppliers and installers, and deliberately fitted an undersized boiler.

Why?

Because all the recommendations were based on keeping the whole house warm.
We fitted thermostatic valves to everything except the heated towel rails and turn the radiators in unoccupied rooms down to the frost protection setting.

Net result? The condensing boiler is working at maximum efficiency.

The Aga in the kitchen sounds a far from green, energy hog. In a way it is, it consumes 425 kw/week (about ยฃ13.50/week from Jan 15). But, we were able to remove two large radiators and free up a serious amount of wall space. (Don't have the BTU figures for the rads, but not running them must mitigate the cost of running the Aga to a certain extent).

We fitted a log burner in the lounge; green and carbon neutral. When we use that the central heating goes off as the thermostat is in the lounge.

All our lights are either LED or compact fluorescent.

We have way more loft insulation than recommended. There are drifts of it a couple of feet high! Before the insulation went in I took great pains to seal all ceiling piercings; light pendants, cable runs, water pipes, etc. Expanding foam is great stuff. Our loft space is freezing in the winter.

As part of the renovation we had to rip up all the ground floor floorboards to repair or replace joists. We strung netting between the joists and laid insulation there as well.

Double Glazing: Yes please, we'd really like some, but idiotic town hall planners are insisting like-for-like replacements and an architect's drawing for each and every window!. Prats. There's nine windows needing done. The architect's quote? More than the cost of one of the replacement windows. So for now we're stuck with early 1800's sash windows and 21st century drafts.
One option that won't involve the planners is to get in a company that specialises in refurbishing sash and case windows. Sometimes they can fit really slimline double glazing, but it's expensive and the payback time is measured in years. uPVC is not an option.

I bought a Flir One Infra Red camera attachment for my iPhone. It has proved invaluable for identifying cold spots from inside the house and, outside, hot spots from heat leaking out of the house. It was particularly useful when seeking out small ceiling piercings into the loft. I also use it to check the boiler return water temperature to ensure it continues to operate efficiently. It's probably paid for itself.

If you have thermostatic valves fitted it means your central heating pump is working against a variable back pressure. Read the manual and see if you can change the way it operates. Mine has six settings. Find the right one for your system. The secret is knowing the boiler return temperature. Consult the manual.

I have an app on my phone and a cheap wifi connected relay in the thermostat circuit. I can use that to turn the heating On or Off remotely. Handy when we go away for the weekend or longer. The kitchen/dining room stays warm, courtesy of the Aga, but we're not wasting gas heating the rest of the house. When we get about an hour from home we turn the heating on and get home to a comfortable house. IMHO Hive is a rip-off. You can get simple on/off functionality for ยฃ6.99 from ebay. Search for Sonoff wifi switch.

Despite all our efforts our house is still expensive to run compared to a modern one. Although over the past 5 or 6 years we have reduced our energy consumption year on year, the bills continue to rise. Sometimes you just can't win.
Blimey you sound like millionaires. Good for you to have your own lively home.

I had to sell my inherited house cos Arthritis had krept into my joints, with no central heating or boiler, my bedroom was freezing cold often Jack Frost painting the windows with icey patterns. So I bought an electric heater it was still cold in the bedroom, I had cold hands n feet every night even with 2 duvet n me sheepskin coat on the bed. The Council granted me a Disabled Facilities Grant for a lovely new but small shower room, as I could no longer get in n out of the bath.

I applied for central heating grant, the tossers that came to install the pipes, told me, โ€œThey are not Joiners campnโ€™t take up the floorboards, in attic and all the other rooms, kitchen Lounge, Craft room n bedroom, I was told when they come to ask them to lay the pipes arond the skirting boards, but they refused. I run up a MASSIVE ยฃ800 Winter bill, cos all I had to heat me Lounge was an oil radiator, cos I had the gas supply cut off cos I didnโ€™t want gas fire giving ff monoxide fumes.

My Support Worker at the time advised me to sell my beloved family home, with all fond memories of my parents and I having a lvely warm wood fire in the Kitchen before, I got the fitted kitchen put in n dbl glazed windows which cost me Mam an opawful lot, being ripped off by the builder. My mistake was pa6ing the guy to do up all the rooms, the kitchen looked nice but was unfinished, no beading but all units where badly designed. Which Builder worth his salt puts an electric oven next to the washing macjphine n sink, with expised electric plugs with expised wires? Honest its was a nighmare, I regretted doing up our house, poor Mum got unwelcome callers when I was getting groceries, this shifty looking gypsy fella told me Mam to habd other ยฃ2,500 for doing minor repairs to missing tiles and remocving the chimney stacks. The Insurance lady told us the job was worth only ยฃ200. He threatened me with going to cops if I didnโ€™t hand over the money.

This 6oung lass followed me home after I had been to bank to get me Mam sone money to pay our bills, then she nocked on the door told me a sob story that would I give her a glass of water cos she was preggers, HA! Liar? She was drugged up on smack to the eyeballs cos she had punk rings around her eyes and druggey smell, her pimp must have come to case the joint, cos he came without her next day , asked for a coffee, then went into the Lounge nicked me purse full of 20ps for my disabled bus pass, he came into the kutchen n said he must go cos he has 5o take care of his girlfriend. She didnโ€™t look 6 month preggers at all.

Anyway I could not manage the stairs to the bathroom, my Carers were coming each day, I had 5o sleep in the sifa until I was 55, I contacted a great lady who helps older people to downsize n helped with selling me house n moving into my Little Palace flat, with 4 basic bit nice rooms with central heating, lovely new friends, one elderly lady our Resident Comedienne calls this place the Neverwell Hotel. Lol!!

Anyway I paid off all me debts got awarded ESA n DLA, best thing I ever did moving from me lively but freezing house with me lively gardens. It was hard to let go, but Iโ€™ve been in this flat 5 years, I donโ€™t need a 7 room house with stairs, there is a handy luft here for the Residents which I use often. I bought meselt a nice memory foam electric bed paid my rent on time in full, got a Smart telly n ppaid iff me fridge freezer n sofa on Zhp. Not recommended, HP had a huge 73% intrest rate so cost me a huge wack.

So now I have a lovely cosy home, smashing finushed kitchen, the Head Office of this sheltered housing Assoc contol the gas ch by computer when the temp drops outside the heating goes up, so all I pay is rent and electric. God Bless wonderful PurePlanet Company. Iโ€™m truly blessed. MEGATHANKX X
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I have an app on my phone and a cheap wifi connected relay in the thermostat circuit. I can use that to turn the heating On or Off remotely. Handy when we go away for the weekend or longer. The kitchen/dining room stays warm, courtesy of the Aga, but we're not wasting gas heating the rest of the house. When we get about an hour from home we turn the heating on and get home to a comfortable house. IMHO Hive is a rip-off. You can get simple on/off functionality for ยฃ6.99 from ebay. Search for Sonoff wifi switch.


Good tip @Oakbank
Thanks for sharing 😃
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I used to be A. Especially in our old terraced house. I got to the point of sitting at my computer in gloves, hat, multiple layers and under a blanket - and then thought it probably wouldn't hurt to have the heating on a little bit! I'm a bit more balanced these days.
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Having a home that has solid walls and no cavity, heating can be on for 3/4 hours at least to simply warm up by 2 degrees in the morning. But we do not set the thermostat above 19, the lowest my wife is comfortable with as she suffers from MS. External solid wall insulation is our Holy Grail but due to cost will need to be done in sections I feel. Jumpers, thick socks etc at this time of year and ( not meant to sound too crass) but the decision to switch provider has all helped keep costs more affordable.
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Ha, it was when I moved out that I really started to turn lights off and not have the heating on. We used to spend as much time as possible at our parents houses over the winter :D

I think it's cos I'm also a yorkshireman (we are like the Scots but without the generosity 😉 )

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