Full Fibre


Has anyone subscribed to full fibre? Not the current broadband fibre connection which still means low voltage cables from the box to the house, but full fibre all the way into the house.

I have been offered full fibre at a price of £27 per month. A special offer. Sadly I can’t take it up as I need to cancel my existing contract and can’t do that until February next. Otherwise I have to pay a fat fee to be released. Other suppliers are offering full fibre but at around £60 per month and that is too much. No doubt the company making the offer will up its prices after the first year.

If any reader has gone this route it would be interesting to know and the cost but more than that if you were able to dictate where the box was installed. Many installers want the quickest and easiest location but that is not always the customer’s preference. I already use an Openreach modem but for fibre would need an additional box in the house.

 

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I first searched in the PP community for full fibre in case it had cropped up before. The search came back with matters relating to diet!


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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Sorry, FTTP (Fibre to the Premises) hasn’t reached Upper Cwmboblle, we only got FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet) because the WAG (Welsh Assembly Government) financed it, @Jowl  was very helpful when I was enquiring about FTTC, it might also be worth asking David j, as there’s supposed to be 300Mb FTTP trail rollouts in some parts of South Wales.

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@G4RHL I would argue (as in propose) that if the installer won’t install it in a location which allows you to use the service without substantial extra rewiring and costs to you then the install is of no use.

I’d ask for what you want and see if they’ll agree (if and when you ever get around to it)

 

@woz 23 years ago I had that issue with BT when they came to install my telephone line. I told them where I wanted the master socket and at first the engineer said no can do unless he put screened cable across the front of the house. I said yes can do and explained how he could do it without any additional cables at all. All he needed was a screwdriver. He messed up. BT paid me £1000 in compensation without my asking for it.

If/when I have full fibre I will be insisting on where the box goes. Currently at £60 per month it’s a big no.

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@G4RHL 

I’d love near gigabit speeds. The use case is mainly related to streaming (which at present is just about adequate for us - contention issues aside) but here’s the question, what would you do that you can’t do now with your existing broadband?

Ping Nasa in 1 ms! 😉 

@woz 23 years ago I had that issue with BT when they came to install my telephone line. I told them where I wanted the master socket and at first the engineer said no can do unless he put screened cable across the front of the house. I said yes can do and explained how he could do it without any additional cables at all. All he needed was a screwdriver. He messed up. BT paid me £1000 in compensation without my asking for it.

If/when I have full fibre I will be insisting on where the box goes. Currently at £60 per month it’s a big no.

I don’t know how it works with other companies, but when Sky installed in my friend’s house they put the cable in the living room, but still on an outside wall.
Mine’s in the passageway, but at least it’s by the living room door.

I have been offered full fibre at a price of £27 per month. A special offer. Sadly I can’t take it up as I need to cancel my existing contract and can’t do that until February next. Otherwise I have to pay a fat fee to be released. Other suppliers are offering full fibre but at around £60 per month and that is too much. No doubt the company making the offer will up its prices after the first year.

 

That sounds like a great deal @G4RHL I’m paying close to £60 a month.

The only thing I’d check is what the roll-off cost is. That is, the monthly cost once the special offer expires after a year / two years.

@Marc I believe the company’s normal charge will be £50 per month. The £27 per month is for the first year. They are rolling it out in only a few areas at present. Having said that I have seen many vans around which I am sure belong to a company laying fibre cable. The whole industry will start pushing full fibre before long. That will bring prices down. BT & EE (the same company in fact) at present are at £60 p.m.  I currently pay £27 p.m. already for my fibre broadband but it is fibre to the box not the house. Gives me a speed of about 46Mbs which is fine. Two mobile phones cost me £18 p.m for both (£9 each) which includes free calls etc. I don’t have a landline. £60 per month is an awful lot when the vast majority have a decent enough connection already. I don’t think I can justify it.

The big difference will be your upload speed. This is important for video calling and is rarely guaranteed by any provider.

You will 'save' £276 (50-27x12) in the first year, so if this is what you really want, cancel your existing contract.

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I’m on a Virgin 200/20 which is the minimums I usually get tbh. It’s also pretty stable. I’m not sure I have an immediate need for fttp but it’s nice to have an option / bargaining chip with Virgin. 
 

the upload speed would be a benefit to me - as I work for a company who specialise in network / cloud infrastructure, I can have Virtual machines hosted on our Datacentre. So a good upload helps with that. 
 

My concern was also install - I’d like it in the loft and would imagine ghats a big no no by most / all installers. I did read there are two install options from openreach - standard and premium. Premium you get a bit more scope to install further away from where the Openreach line meets your property. I think some of it comes down to the individual engineer in the day. 
I have a new-ish neighbour who is a BT engineer - not sure his exact role but going to ask him what is possible - even if I have to run Internal cable (which I actually enjoy doing).

Get ya cat6 out @Jowl you know you want to… 😉 

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@Jowl , it's also worth remembering that wherever you get open reach to install the ONT box you will also require a power supply, so run that cable as well if required

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Get ya cat6 out @Jowl you know you want to… 😉 

Ha ha it’s at the ready (although I’ve got grey instead of black which I’d prefer for any external.)

But it would be optical / fibre cable I need for that run into the loft I think  

 

@Jowl , it's also worth remembering that wherever you get open reach to install the ONT box you will also require a power supply, so run that cable as well if required

yep, that’s already in the loft. Little bit concerned about optical connections around a dusty / insulation fibres environment but I think it would be ok. 

Hmmm, never assumed it’d need to be optical…

I guessed you’d got some router/server stuff in the loft and just needed to get the incoming data-pipe up there. Is copper no good?

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Hmmm, never assumed it’d need to be optical…

I guessed you’d got some router/server stuff in the loft and just needed to get the incoming data-pipe up there. Is copper no good?

Yeah my network switch is up there and I’d like to put the router up there too (gotta be careful with temps). 
the modem could go somewhere else and I can run copper (cat6) from the to the loft. But I’d prefer everything out of the way - and have the optical fttp go straight up there. 

Hmmm, never assumed it’d need to be optical…

I guessed you’d got some router/server stuff in the loft and just needed to get the incoming data-pipe up there. Is copper no good?

Optical to the modem. They will try to put the modem in a place that is easy for them but not necessarily for you. No reason, if the router is in the loft for the modem not to be there and they run the optical cable to it. Perhaps hide the cable outside behind a drainpipe. 

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We’ve been offered FTTP by County Broadband using the existing BT infrastructure but can’t find anyone who’s already on it. Lots of negative reviews!

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