Data from the smart meter

Related products: Smart meters & IHDs Meter readings & usage

Could you please give access to customers’ half-hourly smart meter readings?

One of your competitors provides this on their monthly bills. They way they do this is silly : they add pages to the monthly PDF bill.

PP could just provide the option for a link to download as a CSV file format or something like that.

I have been looking around the community for an answer to the same question. I know PP access our SMART readings on a monthly basis but don’t know if they provide access to the rest of it. I have come accross this company  https://data.n3rgy.com/consumer/home that aparently can provide it for free, but I have not registered yet as I would prefer to get it from my supplier direct.


@Ohit have you read the t&c’s of that website?

 


I have been looking around the community for an answer to the same question. I know PP access our SMART readings on a monthly basis but don’t know if they provide access to the rest of it. I have come accross this company  https://data.n3rgy.com/consumer/home that aparently can provide it for free, but I have not registered yet as I would prefer to get it from my supplier direct.

I understand it would be support work for PP to offer the data to customers.
It could be labelled as “beta” and maybe even used as a opportunity to engage with interested customers. e.g. I would happily write code, and share it, that used the data and did useful things.

A competitor to PP gives this smart meter data as standard.

 

@Ohit have you read the t&c’s of that website?

 

I have not - what’s the summary of concerns?

 

 

 

 


@Ohit Lack of transparency on what they would do with your data, whether it’s really free or if you would eventually be charged,  lack of transparency of what the business really is as far as consumers are concerned. I couldn’t make head or tail of what you were really signing up for if you did. 

My gut feeling is they hope for a huge number of consumers to sign up then sell on the data, but I may be wrong. 

Why else would they offer the service for free?

On the other hand if it works for them and the consumer then what a great business..(I may be over cynical, there is little intelligence available on what the business actually is)


@Ohit Lack of transparency on what they would do with your data, whether it’s really free or if you would eventually be charged,  lack of transparency of what the business really is as far as consumers are concerned. I couldn’t make head or tail of what you were really signing up for if you did. 

My gut feeling is they hope for a huge number of consumers to sign up then sell on the data, but I may be wrong. 

Why else would they offer the service for free?

On the other hand if it works for them and the consumer then what a great business..(I may be over cynical, there is little intelligence available on what the business actually is)


There is definitely a business case. For example, I do not yet see any utilities comparison service or web site that compares based on a consumers’ actual usage - i.e. their historical half-hourly smart meter readings.

 

That will turn the current “flat rate tariff” model at comparison sites on its head.


This is interesting

https://carbon.coop/portfolio/smart-meter-data-service/ 

https://carbon.coop/join-us/



You are a Google pro! Thank you. I think I will sign-up and go through the process of getting the data.


Hi @Ohit 

Great idea. We’re def up for this.:slight_smile:

It looks like we’ll be able to pilot this with community members quite soon. I’ll post something with more detail in the next couple of weeks, with a view to getting about 50 Members to start a pilot from the New Year.

Those taking part will need smart meters of course. :thumbsup:


Hi @Ohit 

Great idea. We’re def up for this.:slight_smile:

It looks like we’ll be able to pilot this with community members quite soon. I’ll post something with more detail in the next couple of weeks, with a view to getting about 50 Members to start a pilot from the New Year.

Those taking part will need smart meters of course. :thumbsup:


Fantastic - that sounds great! Thanks

 

If it helps, I would be looking to write code to automate the data capture (with later subsequent other code that would look to process that data).

I will be making the code open source for anyone else who is interested.


 

If it helps, I would be looking to write code to automate the data capture (with later subsequent other code that would look to process that data).

I will be making the code open source for anyone else who is interested.

That sounds very interesting @Ohit

Do you mean as way to make it ‘visual’, or more than that? 


 

If it helps, I would be looking to write code to automate the data capture (with later subsequent other code that would look to process that data).

I will be making the code open source for anyone else who is interested.

That sounds very interesting @Ohit

Do you mean as way to make it ‘visual’, or more than that? 


Plan would be to split (the code) into components.

First/main one being data capture.

Then components on how to use that data. One could be visualisation.

Other components could be anything useful that could be driven from the data. Triggers, alerts, golden e-stars :D  Still thinking about that one.

 

For now, the first/main interest for the data is to build a clear demand profile over a good period of months to a year.
I already have demand data logging over the past few years via a clip-on device, but that has suffered from gaps when the internet has gone down or batteries ran out.
And the ultimate golden source of our grid demand is the smart meter data given that’s what is actually billed.