Can you save with an electric car?


Are electric cars actually viable yet over petrol and diesel yet? All of that electricity coming from the grid must be more expensive right?

Well, maybe not. I’ve just had a quick look on Comcar. Its a great site for any car comparison needs if you've not heard of it, so take a look. I’ve compared a Nissan Leaf and Tesla S (Anyone out there driving one of these? How’s it working for you?) to a Ford Focus 1.5 petrol and a Vauxhall Astra 1.4 Tech-line.
I’ve only compared to two kinds of electric cars here and we'll be looking at other popular electric vehicles in future discussions, but the numbers here are clear to see. Driving an electric car is almost five times cheaper than petrol. Tap/click on the image below for a closer look:



Data from Comcar, 23rd May 2017

To be fair, the Focus is around £5,000 cheaper than the Leaf I’ve compared here, but driving a Leaf earns you a £4500 government grant because of its emissions level.

More importantly though, how do the Big 6 compare to us if you drive a Tesla or Leaf? Well, we do come out as the cheapest. Remember too, while you’ll still be heading in the right direction by driving a Leaf or Tesla with the Big 6, you’ll still be contributing to CO2 emissions through simply using their electricity. At Pure Planet though, all of our energy is 100% clean, so you’ll be contributing absolutely nothing to the atmosphere, which we can agree is the best way surely?




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Good article and agree completely that electric mileage is much cheaper than petrol or diesel - in my experience about 75% cheaper.

One thing to be aware of with Comcar is that the default number of miles per charge they use is based on the European NEDC figures which aren't very representative of the real world - the American EPA figures are much better. For example the BMW i3 does 190 miles NEDC or 114 EPA. The most I've managed is 125. This means the price per mile in your table could be slightly lower than reality.
Good to know @Lakesguy and I'll make sure we take that into account when we look at future comparisons. Its good to hear how this looks from an EV driver like yourself. Do you think we should ensure we use EPA figures in our tables? I can see if we can create a new version.
Are you generally happy with your i3 so far? My best mate is about to buy one, so any advice is welcome.
EPA is definitely a better figure to use for the comparison, hopefully NEDC might improve in time.

I love the i3, it's a fantastic car to drive and I'd recommend it highly. If it's going to be your mate's only car (mine is) then I'd go for the version with a petrol range extender - I hardly ever use it (200 miles out of 9,500 so far) but it's saved me from calling a tow truck a couple of times when chargers didn't work (the charging infrastructure is getting better but still has a way to go before it's perfect). He should be able to get a 2 day test drive from the dealer and probably won't want to give it back 🙂
Leaf driver. Main reason for ending up with pure planet
Fantastic car to drive. It's actually the wife's but I use it whenever I can
I recommend to everyone I meet and will be aiming for the new one next year or an electric SUV (quashqai or Hyundai/Kia hopefully coming by then)
Great to hear that you're enjoying your Leaf @Wally3753.
Do you know how they are improving the new Leaf that you're considering to buy? My dad has a normal petrol Quashqai. Lovely to drive and good ground clearance. I'd be very eager to se show an electric one would perform.
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Just thought I'd put in my twopenorth in. I attended my PIP Appeal in October on a Monday, 2 days l8r full PIP awarded, I was overwhelmed. This meant I wud not be housebound any more. I rang up the Mobility Dealership, arranged for a Class III scooter t be delivered


Oh wot joy, on that first drive to breathe in good fresh air on a cold frosty night. I was a bit rusty with the rt turn but soon got the hang of driving again.

Who us this fella George?
Just my trusty steed an electric powered scooter, if only I could post a pic but t Techy for an ol codger like me. I went for a longer drive last might, to Wickes DIY store, its HUGE. I was after an adjustable spanner and a xtra strong padlock to secure George during nights and days when he's charging. A full battery gives me a 30mile radius @ tiny 8mph, but he goes real fast for me cos George is new. A proper little Chevvy.

I'm off for a long drive l8r thos wk into town t Library n check out Debs stire see wot new gear they av.

Fun fun all the way for much needed Retail Therapy. YAHOOO!
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Just thought I'd put in my twopenorth in. I attended my PIP Appeal in October on a Monday, 2 days l8r full PIP awarded, I was overwhelmed. This meant I wud not be housebound any more. I rang up the Mobility Dealership, arranged for a Class III scooter t be delivered


Oh wot joy, on that first drive to breathe in good fresh air on a cold frosty night. I was a bit rusty with the rt turn but soon got the hang of driving again.

Who us this fella George?
Just my trusty steed an electric powered scooter, if only I could post a pic but t Techy for an ol codger like me. I went for a longer drive last might, to Wickes DIY store, its HUGE. I was after an adjustable spanner and a xtra strong padlock to secure George during nights and days when he's charging. A full battery gives me a 30mile radius @ tiny 8mph, but he goes real fast for me cos George is new. A proper little Chevvy.

I'm off for a long drive l8r thos wk into town t Library n check out Debs stire see wot new gear they av.

Fun fun all the way for much needed Retail Therapy. YAHOOO!


Hey @Kniterella
Fantastic to hear from you and to get such wonderful news. 😁
And George back on the road too! Amazing stuff.
An early Christmas present for you I guess.
So, is it the same George? Or a different scooter?
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Fab to see you back here, Knitty! Love your tales! 👍👏

I met a delightful old lady today in her mobility scooter. I was walking to Morrison’s in fierce Atiyah 💨💨💨💨, she’d just crossed zebra crossing in scooter. Cars weren’t moving, but lady driver was trying to get ladies attention. As I approached, I asked old lady if she was ok. She said she couldn’t hear what the driver in car was saying. It transpired the old ladies walking stick had fallen out of her scooter basket and was lying in the zebra crossing. I managed to stop the traffic coming in the other direction, retrieved the walking stick, then folded it safely into her basket. Thanked the drivers, then made sure scooter lady was ok to get home 👍. She was an absolute delight bless her💕and couldn’t thank me enough.

So make sure you go safely in those winds, Knitty! And watch ya belongings! Great to see you back here!
good article - thank you. My wife and I have had a leaf for around 6 years. Range is rubbish as batteries now old (I wouldn't risk 40 miles) but for around town and school run it is brilliant. I bought second hand in 2013 for £12000 and it is still worth £4000! We have done around 50,000 miles so far and saved a fortune on fuel costs, all other running costs are great. But the best thing is pre heat - car is de- iced and ready to go. I am getting an I Pace to add to the family as my commuter car. 130 miles a day co2 free with pure planet. Of course the bit I don't know is the environmental impact of manufacture v driving an old efficient car.
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good article - thank you. My wife and I have had a leaf for around 6 years. Range is rubbish as batteries now old (I wouldn't risk 40 miles) but for around town and school run it is brilliant. I bought second hand in 2013 for £12000 and it is still worth £4000! We have done around 50,000 miles so far and saved a fortune on fuel costs, all other running costs are great. But the best thing is pre heat - car is de- iced and ready to go. I am getting an I Pace to add to the family as my commuter car. 130 miles a day co2 free with pure planet. Of course the bit I don't know is the environmental impact of manufacture v driving an old efficient car.
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Nice one @Davezico
Love this post.
Especially this:

But the best thing is pre heat - car is de- iced and ready to go.

Have to agree with you!
I'm jealous that you're getting an i-pace though.
Did you consider a Tesla?
I used a Tesla for a week in "ludicrous" mode. I admired Musk for disrupting the market but he is a bit childish and his cars reflect that personality. Primarily I bought the i Pace as it is made in England so less shipping costs ( other than batteries) I hope it is good. Previously a Lexus hybrid driver with adaptive cruise - I hope Jag systems are as good and the quality is matched!

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I used a Tesla for a week in "ludicrous" mode. I admired Musk for disrupting the market but he is a bit childish and his cars reflect that personality. Primarily I bought the i Pace as it is made in England so less shipping costs ( other than batteries) I hope it is good. Previously a Lexus hybrid driver with adaptive cruise - I hope Jag systems are as good and the quality is matched!

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I've heard great things about the i-Pace @Davezico I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
And it'll be better for the UK weather. Those Teslas have terrible windscreen wipers as they're built and tested in sunny California!
I still wouldn't say no, though 😉

What's the i-Pace waiting time?
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Been running a Tesla M3 since last Nov and have had no problems with the wipers.They even had an over the air update to the auto wipe system.
Would expect at least 50% better Mls/KWh from a Tesla than a iPace.
Different cars though.
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Would be really interested in how many miles per kWh you can get from the different Teslas and iPace if poss.
For a 30 kWh Leaf I get 3.5 4.0 depending on how I drive it and journey type.
Also the iPace is made in Austria.... European at least!
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They even had an over the air update to the auto wipe system.

That sounds cool @Capt RAF 😁
What did the update do?
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Sorry for the late reply, Update to the wiper system mainly how the car computer analyses the camera data. as far as I know Tesla use a camera in the top centre of the screen to determine the amount of rain hitting the screen.Seems to work fine for me.
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Sorry for the late reply, Update to the wiper system mainly how the car computer analyses the camera data. as far as I know Tesla use a camera in the top centre of the screen to determine the amount of rain hitting the screen.Seems to work fine for me.

Thanks @Capt RAF
Love it. Cars getting over the air software updates. 😁
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...until you stop paying and they disable the car.
By the way some vehicles are fitted with OTA disablers for that very reason.
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Thanks @Capt RAF
Love it. Cars getting over the air software updates. 😁

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